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Missing header files for whole 16F914-7 series ( again)

 
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TaiChipY
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Missing header files for whole 16F914-7 series ( again)
PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:56 am     Reply with quote

I have read one topic regarding this header files, so i search the whole drivers directory and there's NO header files for this MCU's. !!

Im using 3.150 version.

Can someone send me header file for 16F917 and 914 MCU's??
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 1:27 pm     Reply with quote

This question is asked many times on here.

If you get the header files it does not give you support for those PICs.
The DEVICES.DAT file and PCM.DLL files contain all the support for the
chips, such as the device memory layout, i/o ports, peripheral modules,
CCS built-in functions, Config word layout, etc.

You have to upgrade the compiler (ie, buy the maintenance package)
to get those files. That's what we all do.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:44 pm     Reply with quote

OK. Thank you for replay.

I have asked this becuse someone has write down that this was supported in older versions so ...

Anyway thank you.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 2:51 pm     Reply with quote

I checked and those .H files don't come with vs. 3.150.
What does come with it are these files for LCD-controller PICS:
16C923.H
16C924.H
16C925.H
16C926.H
Maybe that's what the person meant.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:48 pm     Reply with quote

So if i get you right... there's no support for this MCU for now ? ( the final version is 3.191 ? ).

It's tricky becuse then i have to buy different c compiler.

Will ccs give support for this mcu's or if there is support then in which version ?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:57 pm     Reply with quote

In the current version, 3.219, they have the .H files for the 16F913
to 16F917.

I haven't tested the lcd routines to see if they really work with those
latest chips.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 3:38 am     Reply with quote

I have take a look into the prices. So if someone buyes 14bit or PIC18 version ( not win IDE ) do they get support for all this 913-917 series and what about updates in this part ?

Is there some demo so we can test if there is really support for this MCU and if this is really in function...
Im asking this becuse wenn you look into CCS updates, it's easy to notice that almost every two week there is an update...
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 4:38 am     Reply with quote

... just one thing to add.

If i would use PCM or PCH version can i use ccs plugin for MPLAB and can i then make normal programming for 913-7 series thru ICD2 or some other way?

Is ICD2 ( regarding the topic from the Guest )supported if i would use PCM or PCH with MPLAB?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 7:22 am     Reply with quote

ICD2 support
16F913 - Beta
16F914 - Beta
16F916 - Supported
16F917 - Supported

PCM - supported.

One note, PCH is for PIC18's and PCM is for PIC16's. If you are using PIC16F913-917 then PCH isn't going to work for you, you need the PCM. You get 30 days of download rights when you buy a compiler. One year of maintenance gets you 365 days of download rights unless you wait about 2 years and 5 days and then you would get 366 days Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:17 am     Reply with quote

What about support for LCD on PICDEM board...


Anyway thank you and PCM programmer for helping infos.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 12:26 pm     Reply with quote

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What about support for LCD on PICDEM board...

Are you talking about the PicDem2-Plus board ?
That's a completely different type of LCD. It's a character LCD,
with a parallel interface. Any PIC can control it.

Because you asked that question, I think you need to learn more about
the different types of LCDs. This web page shows the three basic types:
http://www.altadox.com/lcd/knowledge/lcd_display_types.htm

To control the segmented type, you normally use a cheap controller
chip, such as the National MM5453V. Some PICs, such as the ones
listed in previous posts have this controller built-in to them. It's also
possible to use standard PIC to control one, but this is only done in
the lowest cost applications.
http://www.national.com/pf/MM/MM5453.html

To control a character LCD, you can use any PIC that has at least 6 or 7
free i/o pins:
Examples of character LCDs with parallel interface:
http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/index-std.html
You can use less PIC i/o pins to control the character LCD if you use a
74HC595. Example of the 74HC595 interface:
http://www.goalasic.com/V1AN004.pdf
Also you can get character LCDs that have a RS232 interface:
http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/index-ser.html

To control a graphics LCD, such as a 128x64 unit, you can use a PIC
that has about 13 free i/o pins. (8 pins for data, and 5 for control
signals). Examples of graphics LCDs:
http://www.crystalfontz.com/products/index-grph.html
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 6:00 am     Reply with quote

Im testing the project on the character LCD but
i need to switch to segmented (20 seg. ( static )) display.
The picdem has support for F91X series so i will use one of those MCU's.

Where can i get (CCS programming ) support for those segmented displays ?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 25, 2005 7:05 am     Reply with quote

Just write the code! What are you looking for as far as support? Examples or what?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 9:45 am     Reply with quote

...but dont worry, be happy, be happy now, uuuuuuu :--)

I know you have 1001 question per day and that you are full of this newbee questions, but hey, you should look at this from the bright side..
We all want to learn, and only resouce( and the best one ) is this forum so... :--). Ahhh, just some words of support :-)

Back to answer.
I will write one test on 7 segment display (this version will be expanded on 20 seg.) and i will open new topic on this thema in few days...

Thank you for all answers...
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