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REMOTE CONTROL Wıth a pic MCU
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Khansokhua



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REMOTE CONTROL Wıth a pic MCU
PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 7:44 pm     Reply with quote

Guess I have a snake robot that is composed of seven links, six motors.
I want to remote control each of the motors separately. How many ways do I can make it? What is the easiest and cheapest way to apply it?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2022 10:00 pm     Reply with quote

Probably the cheapest would be to use 6 Hobby RC servos for the 'joints'. Then any 18 pin PIC would control them (1 pin per servo), 2 or 3 for some sort of 'remote control' interface to a 'master' computer, aka a PC ??That leaves 2 for ICSP, and a few for LEDs or heat/light sensors. Each body 'segment' would contain batteries for one servo, the 'head' segment containing the PIC and it's power supply.
The actual 'slithering' motion is fairly easy to code. You'll also need to have to decide on the 'remote control' interface as well as the 'master' command code.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2023 11:52 pm     Reply with quote

RC servos represent the best small motors and gearboxes you can get
for anything near the price. Buy slightly more expensive ones and these
will often have stronger final output gears and give better reliability
and accuracy.
Generally you can send one of these a single pulse, and the pulse width
determines where it will move to. The normal range is 1 to 2mSec to cover
the full range of movement. The pulse is normally repeated at an interval
to maintain position. The old traditional RC systems used 25Hz, and modern
systems go up to 400Hz. In a basic PIC system, the key is that you can
use just a single CCP, send a pulse for the first servo, then send a pulse
to the second, third, fourth etc., and then go back and start with the
first again. Use a CCP interrupt to control all this.
The control code then just has to work out the numbers to send for the
movements required, and change the values being fed to the CCP code
controlling the positions.
Though they are Chinese, Dilwe do some of the best small servos around.
Buy a couple, and have a play with driving these. They are simple to
control and work very well.
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Timer1 50Hz 2ms signal
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 1:35 pm     Reply with quote

Code:
#include <trial.h>
#fuses XT,NOWDT,NOPROTECT,NOBROWNOUT,NOLVP,NOPUT,NOWRT,NODEBUG,NOCPD

#use fast_io(b)

int i=0;
#int_timer1
void  timer1_kesme()
{
  set_timer1(65036);
  i++;
  if(i==1)
  {
  output_high(pin_b0);

  }
 
 
 
  if(i==2){
  output_low(pin_b0);

  }
  if(i==10)
 
  {i=0;}
//!  if(i==20){
//! 
//!  output_low(pin_b0);
//!  i=0;
//!  }

}

void main()
{
   setup_psp(PSP_DISABLED);
   
   setup_timer_2(T2_DISABLED,0,1);
   setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS);
   setup_adc(ADC_OFF);
   setup_CCP1(CCP_OFF);
   setup_CCP2(CCP_OFF);
   
   set_tris_b(0x00);
   output_b(0x00);
   
   setup_timer_1(T1_INTERNAL | T1_DIV_BY_4);
   set_timer1(65036);
   enable_interrupts(int_timer1);
   enable_interrupts(GLOBAL);
   
   while(1);
 

}


I tried to control sg90 servo motor using timer1, but did not work.I used different battery supply for motor.It requires 50Hz 1-2ms pulse.If I have not done any mistake, I approximately have these values.Any help?
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:14 pm     Reply with quote

What crystal are you using? You are currently setting timer 1 to interrupt every 2000 instruction cycles.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 2:40 pm     Reply with quote

gaugeguy wrote:
What crystal are you using? You are currently setting timer 1 to interrupt every 2000 instruction cycles.

4MHz
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:04 pm     Reply with quote

Which PIC ??
the file 'trial.h' probably contains this vital information and really for us to help we need to know what 'trial.h' contains.
I suspect it's 2 or 3 lines of code and should be listed in 'main()' and not in an 'included' file.

Typically a PIC like say the 16F84, a 4MHz xtal will result in 1 line of code being execute every us.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:10 pm     Reply with quote

temtronic wrote:
Which PIC ??
the file 'trial.h' probably contains this vital information and really for us to help we need to know what 'trial.h' contains.
I suspect it's 2 or 3 lines of code and should be listed in 'main()' and not in an 'included' file.

Typically a PIC like say the 16F84, a 4MHz xtal will result in 1 line of code being execute every us.


Code:
#include <16F877A.h>
#device ADC=16

#FUSES NOWDT                    //No Watch Dog Timer
#FUSES NOBROWNOUT               //No brownout reset
#FUSES NOLVP                    //No low voltage prgming, B3(PIC16) or B5(PIC18) used for I/O

#use delay(crystal=4MHz)

Sorry for that
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 3:59 pm     Reply with quote

hmm...
2nd line of your header...

#device adc=16

The 877A only has a 10 bit ADC, not 16 bit ADC.

It does do the 1us per instruction though for a 4MHz clock(except for jumps and gotos of course....

You really should put those 4 lines into your program, otherwise you and others have to guess what clock speed you're running, though 'XT' is a clue to 4MHz or less...still doesn't SAY what the speed is.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 7:35 pm     Reply with quote

The CCS IDE creates those two files. It has done this like forever.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:17 am     Reply with quote

temtronic wrote:
hmm...
2nd line of your header...

#device adc=16

The 877A only has a 10 bit ADC, not 16 bit ADC.

It does do the 1us per instruction though for a 4MHz clock(except for jumps and gotos of course....

You really should put those 4 lines into your program, otherwise you and others have to guess what clock speed you're running, though 'XT' is a clue to 4MHz or less...still doesn't SAY what the speed is.

Code:
#include <trial.h>
#device ADC=10
#fuses XT,NOWDT,NOPROTECT,NOBROWNOUT,NOLVP,NOPUT,NOWRT,NODEBUG,NOCPD
#use delay(crystal=4MHz)
#use fast_io(b)

int i=0;
#int_timer1
void  timer1_kesme()
{
  set_timer1(65036);
  i++;
  if(i==1)
  {
  output_high(pin_b0);

  }
 
 
 
  if(i==2){
  output_low(pin_b0);

  }
  if(i==10)
 
  {i=0;}


}

void main()
{
   setup_psp(PSP_DISABLED);
   
   setup_timer_2(T2_DISABLED,0,1);
   setup_adc_ports(NO_ANALOGS);
   setup_adc(ADC_OFF);
   setup_CCP1(CCP_OFF);
   setup_CCP2(CCP_OFF);
   
   set_tris_b(0x00);
   output_b(0x00);
   
   setup_timer_1(T1_INTERNAL | T1_DIV_BY_4);
   set_timer1(65036);
   enable_interrupts(int_timer1);
   enable_interrupts(GLOBAL);
   
   while(1);
 

}


I completely cleaned all lines except pic name in header file, and wrote them onto program.Now I tried again and motor does not move.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:56 am     Reply with quote

Have you verified the signal coming out with a scope? Do you know your chip is running?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:45 am     Reply with quote

gaugeguy wrote:
Have you verified the signal coming out with a scope? Do you know your chip is running?


Unfortunately, I do not have any scope for tracking the signal, but I know it is running.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 8:07 am     Reply with quote

As posted, the code will send a 2mSec pulse. Now this is the maximum,
so the servo will stay right at one end of it's travel. It'll only move if
it has been set to a different position before this.
Also obvious things. The ground of the servo supply needs to connect to
the PIC ground.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 11:24 am     Reply with quote

Ttelmah wrote:
As posted, the code will send a 2mSec pulse. Now this is the maximum,
so the servo will stay right at one end of it's travel. It'll only move if
it has been set to a different position before this.
Also obvious things. The ground of the servo supply needs to connect to
the PIC ground.


So, thank you. Now it works but it is not reliable at all. Sometimes even do not run. I tried to send just one pulse did not work. How can I reach more smooth and more accurate control using this motor?
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