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PIC24FJ64GA306 startup problem
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 2:56 pm     Reply with quote

I have an application that works fine when I used compiler V5.075. Recently I have switched to V5.093, and the program no longer works. As far as I can tell it never reaches the main(). I mean MY main. In the beginning of the main() I see a compiler generated code that initializes global variables. On the V5.075 it is a linear piece of code that simple loads a value into W and then stores into the corresponding memory area. On the V.5.093 it is more complex. I see the data area is defined with values and addresses of the variables and there is a code that iterates through the data. That piece of code is getting stuck and the actual main() never executes.

Code:
void main() {
    output_drive(PIN_B1);
    while(1) {
        output_low(PIN_B1);
        output_high(PIN_B1);
        restart_wdt();
    }
}

Once again, entire application works with the older compiler.

Please let me know if there is a way to switch to the old way of data initialization, or if this was already fixed in later revisions.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2020 3:20 am     Reply with quote

Have just built a minimum project, with you published 'main', using
5.075, and 5.093, and the initialisation is identical.

Now I suspect two things. First you are using restart_wdt, which suggests
you have the watchdog setup to enable in hardware, possibly with quite a
short period?.
Possibly you use #ZERO_RAM?
The only 'loop' initialisation, is if you have zero_ram enabled. Even with this
though the initialisation is identical:

Code:

//5.075
.................... void main() {
*
0200:  MOV     #2780,W15
0202:  MOV     #27FF,W0
0204:  MOV     W0,20
0206:  NOP     
0208:  BSET.B  81.7
020A:  MOV     #0,W0
020C:  MOV     W0,384
020E:  MOV     #FFFF,W0
0210:  MOV     W0,386
0212:  MOV     #800,W0
0214:  MOV     #FFE,W1
0216:  REPEAT  W1
0218:  CLR     [W0++]
021A:  CLR     744
021C:  MOV.B   #5,W0L
021E:  MOV.B   W0L,588
0220:  CLR     4E2
0222:  CLR     4E6
0224:  CLR     4E8
0226:  CLR     4EC


Code:

//5.093
.................... void main() {
*
0200:  MOV     #2780,W15
0202:  MOV     #27FF,W0
0204:  MOV     W0,20
0206:  NOP     
0208:  BSET.B  81.7
020A:  MOV     #0,W0
020C:  MOV     W0,384
020E:  MOV     #FFFF,W0
0210:  MOV     W0,386
0212:  MOV     #800,W0
0214:  MOV     #FFE,W1
0216:  REPEAT  W1
0218:  CLR     [W0++]
021A:  CLR     744
021C:  MOV.B   #5,W0L
021E:  MOV.B   W0L,588
0220:  CLR     4E2
0222:  CLR     4E6
0224:  CLR     4E8
0226:  CLR     4EC


You must have some peripheral setups (#use). These may differ, usually
to fix problems that have been found. Post these.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 13, 2020 2:44 pm     Reply with quote

Ttelmah wrote:
Have just built a minimum project, with you published 'main', using
5.075, and 5.093, and the initialization is identical.

I imagine that's because there are no global variables to initialize in your code. Try adding a large array initialized with a bunch of random numbers.

Quote:

Now I suspect two things. First you are using restart_wdt, which suggests
you have the watchdog setup to enable in hardware, possibly with quite a
short period?.

Of course not. First of all, there is no WDT period so short that even init of globals can't complete, and second, my entire application works on 5.075.

Quote:

You must have some peripheral setups (#use). These may differ, usually
to fix problems that have been found. Post these.

I have RS232 and maybe something else but that has nothing to do with the problem. Try to understand that I spent enough time analyzing it to know exactly what is broken. There is no need to guess.

Here is the portion of the main just before my code starts.

Code:
.................... void main() {
16B4:  MOV     #2780,W15
16B6:  MOV     #27FF,W0
16B8:  MOV     W0,20
16BA:  NOP     
16BC:  MOV     #4444,W0
16BE:  MOV     W0,A6
16C0:  MOV     #4444,W0
16C2:  MOV     W0,B0
16C4:  BSET.B  81.7
16C6:  MOV     #0,W0
16C8:  MOV     W0,384
16CA:  MOV     #FFFF,W0
16CC:  MOV     W0,386
16CE:  DISI    #6
16D0:  MOV     #742,W1
16D2:  MOV     #46,W2
16D4:  MOV     #57,W3
16D6:  MOV.B   W2L,[W1]
16D8:  MOV.B   W3L,[W1]
16DA:  BCLR.B  742.6
16DC:  MOV     #12,W0
16DE:  MOV     W0,6C2
16E0:  MOV     #13,W0
16E2:  MOV     W0,6D6
16E4:  DISI    #6
16E6:  MOV     #742,W1
16E8:  MOV     #46,W2
16EA:  MOV     #57,W3
16EC:  MOV.B   W2L,[W1]
16EE:  MOV.B   W3L,[W1]
16F0:  BSET.B  742.6
16F2:  BCLR.B  2C8.0
16F4:  BCLR.B  2CC.0
16F6:  BCLR.B  807.0
16F8:  CLR     80C
16FA:  CLR     80E
16FC:  CLR     810
16FE:  BCLR.B  807.1
1700:  BCLR.B  807.2
1702:  BCLR.B  807.3
1704:  BCLR.B  807.4
1706:  BCLR.B  807.5
1708:  BSET.B  807.6
170A:  BCLR.B  807.7
170C:  BCLR.B  81B.0
170E:  CLR     81C
1710:  CLR     81E
1712:  CLR.B   823
1714:  CLR.B   83F
1716:  MOV.B   #4,W0L
1718:  MOV.B   W0L,860
171A:  MOV.B   #2,W0L
171C:  MOV.B   W0L,861
171E:  MOV.B   #1,W0L
1720:  MOV.B   W0L,862
1722:  CLR.B   863
1724:  BCLR.B  81B.1
1726:  CLR     86C
1728:  CLR.B   805
172A:  CLR.B   806
172C:  BCLR.B  81B.2
172E:  BCLR.B  81B.3
1730:  BCLR.B  81B.4
1732:  CLR.B   89A
1734:  CLR.B   89C
1736:  CLR.B   8A6
1738:  BCLR.B  81B.5
173A:  BCLR.B  81B.6
173C:  BCLR.B  81B.7
173E:  BCLR.B  8A8.0
1740:  CLR     8AA
1742:  CLR     8AC
1744:  BCLR.B  8A8.1
1746:  BCLR.B  8A8.2
1748:  CLR.B   8B1
174A:  CLR     8B4
174C:  BCLR.B  8A8.7
174E:  BSET.B  8B6.0
1750:  CLR.B   8B7
1752:  CLR.B   8B8
1754:  MOV.B   #5,W0L
1756:  MOV.B   W0L,588
1758:  CLR     4E2
175A:  CLR     4E6
175C:  CLR     4E8
175E:  CLR     4EC
1760:  BCLR.B  8A8.3
1762:  BCLR.B  8A8.4
1764:  BCLR.B  8A8.5
1766:  BCLR.B  8A8.6
1768:  BCLR.B  8B6.1
176A:  BRA     17CA
176C:  DATA    C0,09,08
176E:  DATA    12,00,80
1770:  DATA    03,08,20
1772:  DATA    00,00,00
1774:  DATA    80,1B,08
1776:  DATA    24,00,00
1778:  DATA    00,B2,AC
177A:  DATA    AE,B0,B8
177C:  DATA    00,D4,D3
177E:  DATA    D7,D1,B3
1780:  DATA    AD,AF,B1
1782:  DATA    04,00,D5
1784:  DATA    D2,D0,B4
1786:  DATA    B5,B6,B7
1788:  DATA    00,C0,05
178A:  DATA    08,67,00
178C:  DATA    C0,20,08
178E:  DATA    6E,FF,40
1790:  DATA    08,00,00
1792:  DATA    04,FF,FF
1794:  DATA    07,8F,80
1796:  DATA    01,08,A7
1798:  DATA    00,80,01
179A:  DATA    08,A9,00
179C:  DATA    80,03,08
179E:  DATA    AE,00,00
17A0:  DATA    00,80,02
17A2:  DATA    08,B2,00
17A4:  DATA    00,80,02
17A6:  DATA    08,B9,00
17A8:  DATA    00,80,02
17AA:  DATA    08,BC,00
17AC:  DATA    00,00,00
17AE:  INC     W2,W2
17B0:  CP      W2,#1
17B2:  BRA     NZ,17BC
17B4:  TBLRDL  [W1],W3
17B6:  TBLRDH  [W1++],W4
17B8:  MOV.B   6,W0L
17BA:  RETURN 
17BC:  CP      W2,#2
17BE:  BRA     NZ,17C4
17C0:  MOV.B   7,W0L
17C2:  RETURN 
17C4:  MOV.B   8,W0L
17C6:  CLR     W2
17C8:  RETURN 
17CA:  MOV     #0,W6
17CC:  MOV     #0,W0
17CE:  MOV     W0,54
17D0:  MOV     #176C,W0
17D2:  MOV     W0,W1
17D4:  CLR     W2
17D6:  CALL    17AE
*
17DA:  MOV.B   W0L,B
17DC:  CALL    17AE
*
17E0:  MOV.B   W0L,A
17E2:  CP0     W5
17E4:  BRA     Z,1818
17E6:  BTSS    W5.F
17E8:  BRA     17F8
17EA:  CALL    17AE
*
17EE:  MOV.B   W0L,D
17F0:  CALL    17AE
*
17F4:  MOV.B   W0L,C
17F6:  BCLR    W5.F
17F8:  BTSS    W5.E
17FA:  BRA     180C
17FC:  BCLR    W5.E
17FE:  DEC     W5,W5
1800:  CALL    17AE
*
1804:  MOV.B   W0L,W7L
1806:  REPEAT  W5
1808:  MOV.B   W7L,[W6++]
180A:  BRA     17D6
180C:  CALL    17AE
*
1810:  MOV.B   W0L,[W6++]
1812:  DEC     W5,W5
1814:  BRA     NZ,180C
1816:  BRA     17D6
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 1:32 am     Reply with quote

I've just built one with a 256 element array. The initialisation is identical between 5.075, and 5.093. Same data statements and loop to load it.
It is something specific you are doing, that is making the initialisation
differ. You need to work out what it is.
Are you sure you are comparing with 5.075?. there were changes to the data
initialisation a while before this.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 6:51 am     Reply with quote

Ttelmah wrote:
I've just built one with a 256 element array. The initialisation is identical between 5.075, and 5.093. Same data statements and loop to load it.
Obviously you did not fill it with random values like I told you to do.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:16 am     Reply with quote

If you mean you are loading it with values using rand, then this is not done
during initialization. It is run time code. You can't load using a function
as part of the initialization.
The initialisation code you show just loads the data values from the data
statements into an array in RAM.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 7:52 am     Reply with quote

Ttelmah wrote:
If you mean you are loading it with values using rand, then this is not done
during initialization. It is run time code. You can't load using a function
as part of the initialization.
The initialisation code you show just loads the data values from the data
statements into an array in RAM.


I mean something like that.

Code:
unsigned int8 Keys[3][10] = {    // Keys with display using
    {13,   51,   92,   60,   95,   85,   16,   100,   27,   77},
    {10,   35,   42,   69,   16,   75,   9,   51,   90,   80},
    {34,   85,   23,   48,   45,   16,   90,   75,   18,   65}
};

Why can't you accept what I'm saying at face value instead of coming up with theories how I'm doing something stupid and lecturing me on the basics of C programming.
Quote:

Are you sure you are comparing with 5.075?
Like, really.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 8:02 am     Reply with quote

You are misunderstanding what I am saying.
I am not saying 'you are doing something stupid'. I am saying you are doing
something _different_ to what you describe.

The point is that if I compile exactly what you describe, there is no difference
at all between the initialisation code of the two compilers. So you have to be
doing something else beyond what you are describing to make the difference
occur. I set my test array up as a 256 element array, and the initialisation
is identical.
Now looking at your code, you are initialising I think perhaps seven arrays.
Post your real setup code.
Unless we can reproduce the behaviour, we can't know what is actually
happening.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:11 pm     Reply with quote

I did a bit more digging. Turned out it is WDT after all. On the 5.075 initialization code finishes up in 107mS (at 31KHz clock) and on 5.093 it takes over 120mS. WDT should nominally be 124mS, but somehow expires sooner.
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2020 12:16 pm     Reply with quote

Some of the watchdog timers are _very_ inaccurate. On some chips they can
vary by over 50%!...
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