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Eugeneo
Joined: 30 Aug 2005 Posts: 155 Location: Calgary, AB
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Zener/resistor or regulator |
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:20 pm |
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In certain applications where power consumption and tight regulation is not a concern, does anyone use a 5.1v zener/resitor as a means to regulate power to a pic? I know it's really not a good way to regulate power since the minimum power is always wasted. For a very simple application, i've asked myself this, is it wrong? |
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SherpaDoug
Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 1640 Location: Cape Cod Mass USA
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 4:47 pm |
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They still sell millions of Zeners each year. They are cheap and simple to use. You sound like you are aware of their limitations, so count the pennies, count the Watts and the numbers will tell you the answer. _________________ The search for better is endless. Instead simply find very good and get the job done. |
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asmallri
Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 1634 Location: Perth, Australia
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Re: Zener/resistor or regulator |
Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 6:03 pm |
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Eugeneo wrote: | In certain applications where power consumption and tight regulation is not a concern, does anyone use a 5.1v zener/resitor as a means to regulate power to a pic? I know it's really not a good way to regulate power since the minimum power is always wasted. For a very simple application, i've asked myself this, is it wrong? |
It will work but why bother when you can get a cheap 3 terminal voltage regulator that provides output short circuit protection for little more than the cost of a zener. _________________ Regards, Andrew
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Home of Ethernet, SD card and Encrypted Serial Bootloaders for PICs!! |
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SherpaDoug
Joined: 07 Sep 2003 Posts: 1640 Location: Cape Cod Mass USA
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:30 am |
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A lot depends on your definition of cheap. Are you building one space probe, or 500,000 winking teddy bears? You get all sorts comming to this BBS. I would rather tell them how to make a decision than to make it for them. _________________ The search for better is endless. Instead simply find very good and get the job done. |
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iso9001
Joined: 02 Dec 2003 Posts: 262
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:52 am |
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SherpaDoug wrote: | A lot depends on your definition of cheap. Are you building one space probe, or 500,000 winking teddy bears? You get all sorts comming to this BBS. I would rather tell them how to make a decision than to make it for them. |
Couldn't agree more.
For just side projects, I prefer regulators for the same reasons asmallri said. |
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dbotkin
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 197 Location: Omaha NE USA
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 2:31 pm |
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Another reason to consider Zeners in some applications: Assume you have a PIC device that is powered from either an internal battery (3 or 4.5 V) or an external power supply (3-12 V). A Zener will regulate the external supply but won't drain the internal battery. Most cheap regulators have an obnoxiously high Iq. |
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arunb
Joined: 08 Sep 2003 Posts: 492 Location: India
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Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:07 pm |
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Hi,
A zener diode combinatio and transistor combinations are a a googd choise when you do not know the maximum curent drawn by the PIC (or other devices connected to the +5 V line).
These combinations do not burnt easily, on the other hand I have always faced problems with LM7805 regulators these tend to burnt out easily on a short circuit.
Well in any case it depends on the application you are designing.
thanks
arunb |
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